2010 Saga Dawa Day Teaching

Since His Holiness Karmapa could not travel to Europe in 2010 he gave a live webcast talk to the European Centers on the occasion of Saga Dawa.

Transcript of HH the 17th Gyalwang Karmapa's talk May 28

HH the 17th Gyalwang Karmapa
May 28, 2010
Live webcast 11:41 - 12:29 am
with English translation by RIngu Tulku Rinpoche

Since 2500 yrs. ago Buddha's teachings still exist tonight I'll be 
speaking about dharma as taught by the buddha

Not only the buddha dharma but all the great religions of this world 
and other spiritual traditions have been a great help to lots of 
people to bring happiness and peace to their minds and to this world 
and to live harmoniously in this society.

especially the buddha dharma is based on the understanding of 
interdependence and compassion being the root of these teachings. 
not just philosophy but it has been something that helps to bring 
humans together with other sentient beings too

So when we talk about interdependence, we humans in order to survive 
depend on water, breathing, food, dress and basic needs which are 
also dependent on many things. this doesn't come as soon as we are 
born. we don't get them without an effort. we need positive 
relationships, and conditions that are right. good conditions and 
aspects depends on many things. therefore humans have to depend on 
other things, interdependence is not without effort, or causes and 
conditions. cycle of causes and conditions, karma, or 
interdependence. the main understanding is, that we survive by 
depending on other things. Based on this, Buddha Shakyamuni taught 
the view.

Humans have the capacity to know what to accept and what to get rid 
of. those things that we need to depend on, we have a system of 
understanding what to do and not do. but not broadly, lots of things 
are not included in that system of what to do and what not to do.

animals are being killed, we don't understand what is best to do 
about that or with the environment around us, also because the system 
doesn't include this. our understanding is based only on our own 
personal experience. when we feel pain, then we understand what to 
do, but its based on self-centeredness. its important we need to try 
to bring this understanding to a broader circle. therefore if you can 
do that, we can bring this benefit of knowing what is right or wrong 
to other sentient beings on this earth, to the whole universe.

when we talk about moral ethics, we're talking about responsibility 
that we carry and feel ourselves. not just as philosophy but that we are able to 
place others in others place, as if it is our own feeling. especially 
loving kindness and compassion. its like that. i don't want to 
experience suffering or pain, i want to feel happiness and bliss, and 
everyone else feels like that too. but when these things are 
happening to other people we don't feel it as well. what we try to 
experience with loving kindness and compassion is to experience 
others as if they were ourselves.

others have pain, we experience it as if it is happening to ourselves 
so we can understand their lives and generate loving kindness within 

People when they think that we should be concerned about the 
happiness and unhappiness of other people. sometimes they see it as 
difficult. they see that suffering is the final thing, the result, at 
the end. we should not see suffering or pain as final answer but as a 
question. for instance, we have some problems, a new situation, not 
that we should just feel hopeless, this is it, nothing to do. we can 
take it as a new thing, alternative, and have new courage on how to 
find knowledge or different way of understanding and questioning it. 
these 2 different ways of looking at suffering are important to 

one sees suffering as final, the other sees how can i do something 
with my courage to overcome this? this concerns my own suffering as 
well as the suffering of others. taking it as a test as to how to 
carry this understanding into our experience is important.

many people think that happiness and satisfaction is something that 
has to come from getting rid of suffering, or big problems, and to 
get something big and satisfying and a great result or achievement, 
and only when we get that do we get happiness.

i feel thats not the case. we have to understand our true nature is 
our peace and happiness. to remain in that regular way of being is 
our happiness. we don't have to get rid of big negative things to be 
happy. for instance, we breathe everyday, every moment. if we don't 
breathe, we can't live. what we breathe is oxygen. its not automatic. 
its happening because of causes and conditions and steps so we can 
breathe. breathing isn't accidental, it comes from causes and 
conditions. that we can live is amazing. we have to feel happy that 
we can do that. in our lives, its not possible we have no suffering 
and even if it is, that time will change and problems will come.

its possible we are suffering, and that will change too. it's normal. 
what we have to understand is the way things are. in a more relaxed 
way, let ourselves calm down and feel more natural and satisfied with 
what we are.

generally everything changes, but nature doesn't change. our 
happiness changes, unhappiness changes, but the nature of both 
doesn't change. important we rest in the way things as they are. for 
example, when you go to the office, and are in a traffic jam and are 
late. we can get angry and if we allow ourselves to be carried away 
by this emotion, we can create more suffering. but whether big or 
small situation, the situation is not the main thing. how much we 
focus on it, or react to it, in what way we react to that is the most 
important. important for everyone to bring peace to our minds, and 
that means let our mind be. rest in what is. we don't allow ourselves 
to be carried away by sudden emotion or reaction, but let our mind 
rest as it is. thats the only way to bring happiness to our mind, 
there's no other way.

Today is the full moon day of saga dawa, yesterday was too, so on 
this occasion I would like to express my heartfelt thanks to all of 
you who have very patiently been able to listen to what I have to 
say, and especially I'd like to thank my friends in Europe. I should 
have been in Europe by now, but it didn't happen as we planned. 
However my mind and my speech could arrive through this medium so 
therefore I'm happy. The full moon that is in space is enjoying 
everyone and I hope everyone in the world will be able to enjoy the 
loving kindness and compassion here. I express my grateful wishes and 
thanks to all of you.



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